User talk:Kretol

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Guild Article

Sir Kretol, I read on the Guilds article that permission should be requested before trying to make a guild page. I am doing so now! I have experience creating and modifying wiki articles (I was a staff member at WoWRP before the admin disappeared for over half a year, in addition to being a longtime contributor at WoWWiki) as well as a firm grasp of wikietiquette. I'd like to make an article about House Al'shar, which is a small (five members currently with some more friends to join in the near future) organization that is based on a sin'dorei middle-class family. I plan on following the format utilized on other guild articles. Thank you! -- Piroska (T·C) 14:43, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Custom Namespace

All right, Kretol. I did a bit of research on the topic. What we're looking for is called a NAMESPACE, which is the text that precedes the colon. Default MediaWiki namespaces include User, Special, Help, and so on. However, just arbitrarily adding a colon to the name of an article does not make it into a namespace. You instead have to manually create the namespace by using the CMS configuration. Yups, you were right. I was wrong. And you've got it in writing.

The MediaWiki manual has an article on creating a custom namespace. Not having done a lot of backend work with MediaWiki, I can't help you beyond providing that link. However, once you create it the CMS should recognize Guild and organize articles within that namespace by what's following the colon. I'm not sure what other namespaces you might want, but at least you'll know how to do it in the future if the need arises!

In regards to the conversation we had this afternoon, I'm going to work on a number of templates for you. I'm going to create a Guildbox template and Characterbox template modeled on what WoWWiki has. This way, if we ever do plan on implementing the template we can choose to do so. Also, I might create Guild and Player Character templates that immediately identify respective articles at the top of the page. I've also updated my to-do-list with the other things you've asked me to do:

  • Work on updating the class and race articles
  • Create class and race templates
  • Update Help and provide a small users' guide
  • Creation of a Guides category and eventually transfer many of the guides onto the wiki

As an aside, Guides might be a good namespace to create. If there's anything I missed (or that you feel should be added to my list), let me know!  Piroska . T C 20:58, 5 April 2010 (EDT)

CSS Classes and IDs Guide

In case you ever have difficulties finding stuffs in the CSS files, I stumbled across this catalog of CSS classes and IDs on Wikipedia. It might help you in the future when you try to change things. It won't have the information related to the layouts used in the WoWWiki template, but it's something! I found it while trying to find Article message box (Ambox) template styles.  Piroska . T C 14:40, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Item IDs

I'm a nub. A big, bad, horrible nub. Do me a favor: reply here or on my talk page the items that you use for Kretol's set. I'm trying to throw together an animated gif for you, but I can't remember the shoulders and I don't want to go through the effort of the animation only to find out that I flubbed up again. Once that's done, I'll make you the image (probably two: one within the limits defined by the forums and another nicer one in case you can bypass those restrictions) and post them on this site. And, with that, I may finally head to bed.  Piroska . T C 09:12, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

The file size is a little larger than the forums allows (177k as opposed to 100k), but I'm certain that as an admin you can find a way to work around that. I've also got the original PSD saved in case you'd like me to edit down the size -- just in case!  Piroska . T C 20:10, 12 April 2010 (EDT)


I didn't do much more than peruse this (hey, I'm a busy lady!), but it might be something to consider. According to the article, "AutoWikiBrowser, sometimes abbreviated to AWB, is a semi-automated MediaWiki editor for Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7 (AWB also functions reasonably well under Wine on Linux but this is not officially supported) designed to make tedious repetitive tasks quicker and easier. It is essentially a browser that automatically opens up a new page when the last is saved. When set to do so, it suggests some changes (typically formatting) that are generally meant to be incidental to the main change."

It's not exactly a bot in the traditional sense, but I might look into it to see if I can use it to just somewhat mindlessly delete the blanked articles. The list of features supposedly includes deletion and moving of articles. I'll download it and play around with it in the future.  Piroska . T C 21:28, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

AmBox template

Quick question: what's the current template's CSS file called and where can I access it? Also, can I jump on in and edit it? I know that I have the permissions, but I don't want to do anything too big without your okay. In particular, I'd like to get the code for Template:Ambox working; I see that the CSS is added to MediaWiki:Common.css, but it's not being implemented. Once we get this up and running, I can apply the template to a number of others. In particular, I'm interested in a deceased template for dead characters (per this thread) and also a template to identify archived articles that are no longer applicable to the server (specifically most things related to the prestige system, but I can see use for it in the future). Thanks!  Piroska . T C 20:51, 30 January 2012 (PST)

Specifically, just looking to implement the styles that would allow the AmBox template to work properly. Once that exists, I can build a variety of related templates around it. Theoretically I could just implement inline CSS to make it work, but that's a messy solution and I'd prefer to avoid that if possible. The CSS is on that Common.CSS link above if you just want to add it yourself.
We'll have to see; work is kicking my butt again do I may not have the time or mental fortitude to get everything done that I should before potentially 'disappearing' again! Also, coding wikitext from the phone sucks. Just as a heads up.  Piroska . T C
Weird. I saw that you dabbled with the CSS earlier and it looks like the code's there but it's not implemented in the template. I'll look at it later. Thanks for your efforts. Wish that I'd seen them before posting here!  Piroska . T C

Template updates

Made a couple of UI updates to the Wowwiki skin since upgrades resulted in changes to the base Common template.

  1. Font color change for Search input field
  2. Notification area background color tweak
  3. Additional notification area changes, including padding and borders

Feel free to bother me if you have any questions, comments, or concerns. I'll continue to make updates as I find other issues.  Piroska . T C 12:24, 16 January 2015 (PST)